Touhou 9: Phantasmagoria of Flower View
Character Stats[edit | edit source]
While the game does list stats of a character in the game, certain rankings are not really accurate (for example Sakuya being rated 3★ on normal speed, despite being as slow as Reimu, who is only 1★).
- Normal/Focused Speed - How many frames it takes character to go from left border to right border.
- Scope Speed - How many frames it takes the character's scope to fully deploy. Please note that for certain scopes, this is not as relevant as it seems, such as Komachi, who activates every spirit on the screen immediately and then rapidly loses the scope, or Marisa, whose scope is a cone in front of her that reaches top immediately and simply takes time to grow to full size.
- Charge Speed - How many frames it takes the character to charge one level of a spell. Please note that for first 9 frames of charging, the bar does not move at all, meaning Level 1 technically takes a bit longer than the other three levels.
- Charge Delay - How many frames does the character's Lv. 1 attack last, as it is impossible to start charging before it ends. This does not include the charging speed start-up.
The values are taken from an old Japanese site.
| Character | Normal Speed | Focused Speed | Scope Speed | Charge Speed | Charge Delay |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reimu | 68 (1★) | 136 (1★) | 20 (3★) | 25 (5★) | 41 |
| Marisa | 55 (5★) | 91 (3★) | 101 (3★) | 31 (2★) | 36 |
| Sakuya | 68 (3★) | 85 (5★) | 31 (5★) | 28 (4★) | 46 |
| Youmu | 55 (5★) | 130 (3★) | 182 (1★) | 45.5 (1★) | 23 |
| Reisen | 61 (3★) | 109 (3★) | 12 (5★) | 28.75 (3★) | 51 |
| Cirno | 58 (4★) | 83 (5★) | 4 (5★) | 34.5 (2★) | 51 |
| Lyrica | 65 (2★) | 124 (2★) | 32 (2★) | 35.75 (2★) | 51 |
| Merlin | 72 (1★) | 136 (1★) | 48 (2★) | 42 (1★) | 31 |
| Lunasa | 61 (3★) | 109 (3★) | 16 (3★) | 31.25 (5★) | 51 |
| Mystia | 55 (5★) | 80 (5★) | 10 (3★) | 33.5 (1★) | 51 |
| Tewi | 61 (3★) | 145 (1★) | 38 (3★) | 25 (5★) | 51 |
| Aya | 50 (7★) | 79 (6★) | 50 (3★) | 25 (5★) | 51 |
| Medicine | 55 (4★) | 114 (3★) | 19 (5★) | 35.75 (1★) | 51 |
| Yuuka | 91 (0.5★) | 148 (0.5★) | 4 (5★) | 25.75 (5★) | 51 |
| Komachi | 67 (2★) | 124 (2★) | 20 (7★) | 31.25 (2★) | 51 |
| Eiki | 55 (4★) | 114 (4★) | 5 (6★) | 31 (3★) | 51 |
AI Behaviour[edit | edit source]
Similarly to the previous versus shmup, AI in this game is coded to take intentional hits, being longer on later stages and shorter for that stage after a death (for example dying on stage 7 will not affect stage 8). This value is not character dependent; however, certain characters have much easier time overwhelming AI and having it take unintentional hits, which can lead to its early death. Aya and Medicine have the easiest time doing so, but Reimu, Sakuya, Youmu, Cirno and Eiki are also capable of doing this. It also seems like AI can get genuinely walled when using Yuuka, due to her low speed.
It is to be noted that the values are merely approximations, it is possible for the AI die later or earlier even against characters who do not have ability to overwhelm AI easily (especially Tewi, whose autobomb ability effectively lets her take extra hits), such as Stage 9 Round 2 dying around 3:00 mark instead of 3:20.
Additionally, unlike the previous game, the game will detect if the player is trying to stall by not shooting and stop the timer from advancing.
AI Values[edit | edit source]
The values are taken from a Japanese wiki, conveniently also translated into the expected time it takes AI to die.
Easy
| Stage | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 1, no extra lives |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 5 (1:05) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 5 (1:05) | 4 (1:04) |
| 2 | 5 (1:05) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 5 (1:05) | 4 (1:04) |
| 3 | 5 (1:05) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 8 (1:08) | 4 (1:04) |
| 4 | 8 (1:08) | 4 (1:04) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 10 (1:10) | 8 (1:08) |
| 5 | 10 (1:10) | 5 (1:05) | 3 (1:03) | 1 (1:01) | 22 (2:16) | 10 (1:10) |
| 6 | 22 (2:16) | 6 (1:06) | 3 (1:03) | 1 (1:01) | 26 (2:28) | 12 (1:22) |
| 7 | 26 (2:28) | 7 (1:07) | 4 (1:04) | 1 (1:01) | 40 (3:10) | 14 (1:34) |
| 8 | 40 (3:10) | 8 (1:08) | 4 (1:04) | 1 (1:01) | 55 (4:10) | 16 (1:46) |
| 9 | 55 (4:10) | 9 (1:09) | 5 (1:05) | 1 (1:01) | 5 (1:05) | 30 (2:40) |
Normal
| Stage | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 1, no extra lives |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 5 (1:05) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 5 (1:05) | 4 (1:04) |
| 2 | 5 (1:05) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 5 (1:05) | 4 (1:04) |
| 3 | 5 (1:05) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 10 (1:10) | 4 (1:04) |
| 4 | 10 (1:10) | 12 (1:22) | 9 (1:09) | 7 (1:07) | 12 (1:22) | 10 (1:10) |
| 5 | 12 (1:22) | 15 (1:40) | 11 (1:16) | 9 (1:09) | 38 (3:04) | 18 (1:58) |
| 6 | 38 (3:04) | 18 (1:58) | 15 (1:40) | 10 (1:10) | 45 (3:20) | 20 (2:10) |
| 7 | 45 (3:20) | 25 (2:25) | 20 (2:10) | 15 (1:40) | 50 (3:30) | 32 (2:46) |
| 8 | 50 (3:30) | 25 (2:25) | 20 (2:10) | 15 (1:40) | 60 (N/A) | 32 (2:46) |
| 9 | 60 (N/A) | 45 (3:20) | 40 (3:10) | 30 (2:40) | 8 (1:08) | 59 (4:50) |
Hard
| Stage | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 1, no extra lives |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 8 (1:08) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 8 (1:08) | 5 (1:05) |
| 2 | 8 (1:08) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 8 (1:08) | 5 (1:05) |
| 3 | 8 (1:08) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 10 (1:10) | 5 (1:05) |
| 4 | 10 (1:10) | 12 (1:22) | 9 (1:09) | 7 (1:07) | 12 (1:22) | 10 (1:10) |
| 5 | 12 (1:22) | 15 (1:40) | 11 (1:16) | 9 (1:09) | 45 (3:20) | 18 (1:58) |
| 6 | 45 (3:20) | 18 (1:58) | 15 (1:40) | 10 (1:10) | 50 (3:30) | 20 (2:10) |
| 7 | 50 (3:30) | 25 (2:25) | 20 (2:10) | 15 (1:40) | 50 (3:30) | 32 (2:46) |
| 8 | 50 (3:30) | 25 (2:25) | 20 (2:10) | 15 (1:40) | 60 (N/A) | 32 (2:46) |
| 9 | 60 (N/A) | 45 (3:20) | 40 (3:10) | 30 (2:40) | 12 (1:22) | 59 (4:50) |
Lunatic
| Stage | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 1, no extra lives |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 12 (1:22) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 12 (1:22) | 8 (1:08) |
| 2 | 12 (1:22) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 12 (1:22) | 8 (1:08) |
| 3 | 12 (1:22) | 3 (1:03) | 2 (1:02) | 1 (1:01) | 15 (1:40) | 8 (1:08) |
| 4 | 15 (1:40) | 12 (1:22) | 9 (1:09) | 7 (1:07) | 18 (1:58) | 10 (1:10) |
| 5 | 18 (1:58) | 15 (1:40) | 11 (1:16) | 9 (1:09) | 45 (3:20) | 18 (1:58) |
| 6 | 45 (3:20) | 18 (1:58) | 15 (1:40) | 10 (1:10) | 50 (3:30) | 20 (2:10) |
| 7 | 50 (3:30) | 25 (2:25) | 20 (2:10) | 15 (1:40) | 50 (3:30) | 32 (2:46) |
| 8 | 50 (3:30) | 25 (2:25) | 20 (2:10) | 15 (1:40) | 60 (N/A) | 32 (2:46) |
| 9 | 60 (N/A) | 45 (3:20) | 40 (3:10) | 30 (2:40) | 30 (2:40) | 59 (4:50) |
At value 60, the AI will never take hits on purpose, making killing it with most characters incredibly hard; if a player is good enough, it is possible for the Round to go well into 10+ minutes length.
Notably, Round 5 value AI is set to Round 1 of next Stage; "looping" around to Stage 1 of next difficulty on Stage 9 (except on Lunatic where it stays at the same value as Round 4). Also, Round 2 values for Stage 4 and 5 on Normal and Hard and Round 5 value for no extra lives are mistakenly higher than Round 1 values, as they are set relative to the value on Lunatic.
Extra
| Stage | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 6 | Round 7 | Round 8 | Round 9 | Round 1, no extra lives |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 0:20 | 0:20 | ||||||||
| 2 | 0:22 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:22 | ||||||
| 3 | 0:24 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:24 | |||||
| 4 | 0:26 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:28 | 0:26 | ||||
| 5 | 0:28 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:40 | 0:28 | 0:28 | |||
| 6 | 0:40 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:45 | 0:28 | 0:26 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:28 |
| 7 | 0:45 | 0:26 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:50 | 0:40 | 0:26 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 0:28 |
| 8 | 0:50 | 0:26 | 0:20 | 0:20 | 2:00 | 0:55 | 0:50 | 0:45 | 0:28 | 0:40 |
| 9 | 2:00 | 0:50 | 0:45 | 0:28 | 0:10 | 0:30 | 1:00 | End | 0:55 |
The timer works slightly differently in Extra, due to its sudden death-esque nature. It is instead directly visible above the player character and it ticks down till the opponent loses their invincibility frames, after which they usually (but not always) quickly die. Notably, these values also cycle onto next Stage after Round 4, in order of Round 1, Round 1 with 0 lives, Round 2, etc; except for Stage 9 which follows its own sequence before abruptly kicking the player out after Round 7.
Damage[edit | edit source]
The way damage in this game works is as follows:
- Global value starts at 1 and then goes up by 0.5 every 12 seconds, but no more than 3.
- When a player gets hit, reduce the value by 1, but no less than 1.
- A character cannot die if they're not on their last hit point (that is 0.5); any excess damage will be negated.
- If the character is AI, add handicap for their AI value. According to the Japanese wiki list, these are +0.5 at 20-29, +1.0 at 10-19 (this corresponds to Easy difficulty in Match Mode) and +1.5 at 1-9.
Rank[edit | edit source]
Rank in this game is responsible for two things: bullet speed and the value of the blue item.
The blue item adds 70000 + 7000*rank Spell points when collected, which is 224000 at rank 22.
The rank values are taken from the Japanese wiki.
General[edit | edit source]
Easy and Normal start Round 1 at charge intensity 1, Hard at 4, and Lunatic at 8, with each subsequent round increasing it by 1.
The Japanese wiki lists these speed formulas only under match mode data, but they are listed here under assumption they also apply to story mode (if this is wrong, please correct):
- Easy: The speed is 0.9+0.04*rank pixels per frame; this is slower than all focus speeds even at max rank in Match Mode (at which it becomes 1.54; or around 173 frames to cross the screen horizontally).
- Normal: The speed is 1.1+0.05*rank; at rank 14 this is as fast as Yuuka's focus speed, at rank 18 this is as fast as Reimu and Merlin's focus speed, while at rank 20 this is as fast as Youmu's focus speed.
- Hard: The speed is 1.3+0.08*rank; this means at just rank 7, they are faster than Yuuka's speed and over time outspeed more characters, at rank 19 being significantly faster than Reisen and Lunasa's focus speeds, breaking Marisa's focus speed at rank 22 (which also means they always outspeed Yuuka).
- Lunatic: The speed is 1.3+0.11*rank; this means they start faster than Youmu's focus speed and at rank 20 match even Aya's focus speed.
The bullet speed isn't static, as it has variance range of 0.4 (that is, game will add or subtract up to 0.4); the reference points above are for the average speed (for example, at rank 16 in Easy, it can occasionally move faster than Yuuka's focus speed, while at rank 22 in Lunatic it has chance to be faster than Komachi's normal speed). The game will also make sure the speed is at least 0.8 and no more than 3.0+0.1*rank. Aya's special ability multiplies the speed by 0.93.
It's not exactly known which bullets are affected by rank (especially since some bullets are meant to be slower or faster), but it seems like not all of them are, as seen by this video, where rank is set far beyond what it naturally can reach - while Eiki's boss attacks spawn incredibly fast bullets, her Lv. 2/3 does not.
Match Mode[edit | edit source]
For Round 1, the values are:
- Easy: Rank starts at 1 and increases every 30 seconds, capping at 16 after 7:30.
- Normal: Rank starts at 1 and increases every 15 seconds, capping at 20 after 4:45.
- Hard: Rank starts at 6 and increases every 12 seconds, capping at 22 after 3:12.
- Lunatic: Rank starts at 8 and increases every 15 seconds, capping at 22 after 3:30.
When a round ends, decrease rank by 8.
Story Mode[edit | edit source]
The following are values for Round 1. Each time player dies, the initial rank for that stage is decreased by 2 and the increases are delayed by 10 seconds (except after dying on Lunatic Round 1, which delays them by 13 seconds).
Easy
| Timer/Stage | Rank | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stage 1 | Stage 2 | Stage 3 | Stage 4 | Stage 5 | Stage 6 | Stage 7 | Stage 8 | Stage 9 | |
| 0:00-0:29 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
| 0:30-0:59 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 |
| 1:00-1:29 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 |
| 1:30-1:59 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 6 |
| 2:00-2:29 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 7 |
| 2:30-2:59 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 8 |
| 3:00-3:29 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 9 |
| 3:30+ | 6 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 10 |
Normal
| Timer/Stage | Rank | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stage 1 | Stage 2 | Stage 3 | Stage 4 | Stage 5 | Stage 6 | Stage 7 | Stage 8 | Stage 9 | |
| 0:00-0:19 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 |
| 0:20-0:39 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 |
| 0:40-0:59 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 |
| 1:00-1:19 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 |
| 1:20-1:39 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 1:40-1:59 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 |
| 2:00-2:19 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 |
| 2:20-2:39 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 |
| 2:40-2:59 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 |
| 3:00+ | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 |
Hard
| Timer/Stage | Rank | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stage 1 | Stage 2 | Stage 3 | Stage 4 | Stage 5 | Stage 6 | Stage 7 | Stage 8 | Stage 9 | |
| 0:00-0:14 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 |
| 0:15-0:29 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 |
| 0:30-0:44 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 0:45-0:59 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 |
| 1:00-1:14 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 |
| 1:15-1:29 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 |
| 1:30-1:44 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 |
| 1:45-1:59 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 |
| 2:00-2:14 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 |
| 2:15-2:29 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 18 | 19 |
| 2:30-2:44 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 17 | 18 | 18 | 19 |
| 2:45-2:59 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 | 17 | 18 | 18 | 19 |
| 3:00+ | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 17 | 17 | 18 | 18 | 19 |
Lunatic
| Timer/Stage | Rank | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stage 1 | Stage 2 | Stage 3 | Stage 4 | Stage 5 | Stage 6 | Stage 7 | Stage 8 | Stage 9 | |
| 0:00-0:11 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 |
| 0:12-0:23 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 |
| 0:24-0:35 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 |
| 0:36-0:47 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 |
| 0:48-0:59 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 |
| 1:00-1:11 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 |
| 1:12-1:23 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 |
| 1:24-1:35 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 |
| 1:36-1:47 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 20 | 21 |
| 1:48-1:59 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 20 | 21 |
| 2:00-2:11 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 18 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 20 | 21 |
| 2:12+ | 17 | 17 | 18 | 18 | 19 | 19 | 20 | 20 | 21 |
Extra
| Timer | Rank |
|---|---|
| 0:00-0:09 | 18 |
| 0:10-0:19 | 19 |
| 0:20-0:29 | 20 |
| 0:30-0:39 | 21 |
| 0:40+ | 22 |
The rank in Extra seems to be the same for each Stage, starting and increasing even faster than on Lunatic. It is unknown how it affects bullet speed and if it's decreased the same way as on the other difficulties.